obsolete browsers are not supported…
…but not shut out either
If you are using an older, or a minor/unusual, browser version, chances
are quite a few things don't look right on pages across this site. In
really, really, old or odd browsers things may look really, really, odd, and may
make you wonder what's going on.
Regardless of browser, you should not have any real problems around here. Makes sense to use one of the “latest and greatest” browsers for optimal access and experience though.
optimized support for…
- Tests before 23.jun.2016 made on: Windows 7 Home Premium, 64-bits OS, 4GB RAM, Intel® CORE™ 2.20GHz.
- Tests from 23.jun.2016 onwards made on: Windows 10, 64-bits OS, 4GB RAM, Intel® CORE™ 2.20GHz.
- “optimized support” = optimal use of browser's own
capabilities, without vendor prefixes and/or workarounds for missing
Older versions, and browsers that are discontinued or for the time being can not be tested, are, or will be, phased out and ignored.
- My “stars” grading is based
entirely on how the individual browser renders a cross‐section of
my pages, and otherwise how it behaves on this site. How same
browser behaves on sites not under my control, is irrelevant here.
Browsers are ranged from “barely acceptable (1 star)” to “very good (5 stars)”. Most obvious bugs and weaknesses in a browser are marked with numbered links to descriptions.
- Personal opinion markers…
Green thumbs‐up marked : I find this browser particularly good in some respects.
Pink thumbs‐down marked : I find this browser to cause more trouble than it is worth.
Gold “N/A” marked : unable to find/test later/better versions. Probably discontinued.
- Warning markers…
Yellow warning sign marked : unrequested software and/or unexpected and potentially disturbing behavior, follows installation. More on the issue.
Red warning sign marked : potentially malware infested installation software and/or browser. Recommend full clean‐up operation. More on the issue.
Yellow/gray/red warning sign marked : acting strangely behind the scene. Under observation for reclassification. More on the issue.
- Color overlays…
(These overlays disappear on
:activefor full access to text and links.) A gray'ish overlay means I see no point in continuing testing of this browser. It may be too old and outdated, discontinued, or too much of a hassle to install and/or work with. A red'ish overlay means I won't download this browser or allow it to occupy space on my computers, for security or other reasons. Thus, it most likely won't be tested again, ever. As others may use these browsers, I keep them listed with my notations from earlier tests.
- Lynx, a text‐only browser, is of course graded entirely on its own merits, not against graphic browser standards. Same goes for the other text‐only browsers listed on this page.
limited support for old IE…
As of August 2016, support for IE8 and older, is dropped on this site. All stylesheets for them are disconnected.
All browsers relying on these old Trident engines are then of course also “lost”,
and they will render unstyled pages on this site. The “break-point” for getting
access to stylesheets goes with
@mediaquery support, which IE8 and older
Stylesheets correcting rendering in IE9 and IE10 will stay connected a little longer, but they will not be updated alongside the regular stylesheets.
performing quality checks
I got to know how browsers are doing, and how my
scripts are treated across the board. Good
practices matter as much now as they ever did, making more or less frequent cross browser
testing a necessary routine.
The major browsers, and quite a few minor variants, are sharing space on harddisks and screens on my PCs. This is so I can keep track of how well they all work on today's web, and on my sites.
All available browser versions are run through a growing series of tests consisting of complex combinations of design techniques I do or intend to use. I don't try to avoid problems with browsers in web design, instead I provoke browsers so I can find solutions to more serious deviations.
In addition to dedicated test pages on other sites, a number of regular pages on this site are used for browser testing.
This very page is for instance full of “superfluous” elements,
floated and positioned using a mix of methods, that can be manipulated
further to make them stand out in context.
This way I can check line-up in browsers, and compare details to references as part of my browser grading.
After that I check up if what looks like browser bugs really are browser bugs, and if so if it is time to add them to my little bug list. Not as many bugs in today's browsers as in those we used a decade ago, but one can never be sure.
All this to determine what can be made to work in new browser versions, and at what point it makes sense to ditch active support for older versions in order to make the most out of new arrivals.
we keep on testing
I have done testing of major and minor browsers' rendering and behavior related to my sites, for a long time, which can be seen by glancing at browser support listing on the much older sister-site.
Many of the alternative browsers listed here today, are the same as were checked up on half a decade ago. Some alternative browsers haven't been improved on much in that time-span, and some are “quite dead”.
Most major browsers from a decade ago, are still with us today, and they have all been improved on over the years. Good thing that, as my interest in active hacking to fix weak and buggy browsers, has diminished substantially over the years. It was fun once, but…
These days I prefer to ignore browsers that can't keep up, and focus on those that do well. Life as web designer/developer gets so much easier that way.
I have already stressed my design well beyond breaking point in every way possible in major browsers, and have no problems with how it behaves. Content is accessible even when design looks seriously broken, and that is what really matters as far as I'm concerned.
Weeki Wachee 04.may.2012
16.may.2012 - minor article revision and added screenshots in addendum
10.jun.2012 - minor revisions
11.jun.2012 - minor revisions / updated screenshot images in addendum
14.jun.2012 - minor revision: Opera 12 from beta to final and Firefox 12 to 13, in support list
29.jun.2012 - minor revision.
07.jul.2012 - tested and included Epic browser.
17.jul.2012 - moved some content to other page.
19.jul.2012 - rewritten addendum completely.
21.jul.2012 - clarified points under main browser list.
23.jul.2012 - rechecked browser list in sidenotes for changes.
26.feb.2013 - tested and included IE10 on win7.
13.feb.2014 - tested and included K-Meleon/1.6.0.
14.feb.2014 - splitted old Opera from new Opera.
21.feb.2014 - main and alternative browsers updated and reevaluated, lists reformatted. Pale Moon, Cyberfox, Xtravo, Baidu Sparks, QtWeb, Advanced Browser and SRWare Iron are added.
23.feb.2014 - Conceror, Midory and Yandex added.
25.feb.2014 - WebSpirit and Ultrabrowser added.
27.feb.2014 - Songbird and Comodo Dragon added.
28.feb.2014 - Links and WebbIE added. Page rearranged some.
02.mar.2014 - AOL 1.1, AOL 9.7 and Torch added.
15.mar.2014 - page revision.
17.mar.2014 - branded AOL 9.7 unusable.
22.mar.2014 - branded Baidu Spark unusable.
25.mar.2014 - found two more bugs in IE10.
24.jun.2014 - minor text correction.
15.apr.2015 - branded Torch unusable. Tested upgraded Yandex. Tested upgraded SeaMonkey (2.33.1)
03.jun.2015 - tested Tor Browser (Fx31). Tested upgraded K-meleon (74). Tested upgraded PaleMoon (25.4.1). Tested Vivaldi (220.127.116.11). Updated Opera and Chrome
06.jul.2015 - added note about dropped support for old IE versions
20.sep.2015 - upgraded side-note: refer to IE11 as local IE version. Commented out some content.
25.may.2016 - retested Tor Browser (Fx38).
23.jun.2016 - tested Microsoft Edge (Edge13.10586).
18.aug.2016 - dropped stylesheets and comments for IE8 and older.
19.aug.2016 - downloaded and retested a number of browsers on win10. Introduced "color overlay" for browsers I won't test anymore.
19.aug.2016 - added Deepnet Explorer and Waterfox.
20.aug.2016 - updated Opera on Presto to 12.18.
24.aug.2016 - downloaded and retested AOL 9.8.2.
24.aug.2016 - downloaded and retested Brave 0.
last rev: 19.aug.2016